
It is great that the discussion / debate on the Two Testaments has attracted such interest! I'm moving up a recent post by Michael Westmoreland-White, who has graciously continued the discussion posted below at August 25, 2006. Let me copy Michael's "comment" here:
The relationship between the testaments is complex--and goes far beyond the debate over violence. I want to avoid 2 extremes: 1) The "flat Bible" approach that claims to place everything from Gen. to Rev. on the same level of authority. In practice this tends to squeeze Jesus into a mold created by a certain reading of the OT. Jesus is not allowed to say anything new, all evidence to the contrary. I think it was an appearance of such by Joe Cathey which triggered both Jim West's response & Dan Trabue's. (Now I've spoken for 3 people, so I've REALLY put myself out on a limb.) 2)De Facto Marcionism whereby we assume the OT was bad or defective--often leading to supercessionist theologies, anti-Judaism, and fundamental misunderstandings of the very Jewish nature of the NT documents themselves. I think it is the appearance of this that has you [= SLC] (and maybe Joe Cathey) alarmed, no?
I'm going to start with basic presuppositions. I am going to write as if talking to an adult SS class, not only for Dan (self-described as neo-Amish retro-hippy) who is an educated layperson married to a minister, but for others who happen to read this. No technical terms, no untranslated passages in other languages, a la Jim West. (I must admit my German improves in reading his blog, but then he throws in Italian and Portuguese! Years of Spanish don't help! I expect Mandarin Chinese next week.)
1) God reveals God's self in many ways (Heb. 1:1), but mostly through HISTORY, especially the history of God's people Israel and their relationship with God, and the history of the earliest Christian communities. The fullness of God's revelation is Jesus Christ.
2) The Hebrew Scriptures never stand on their own. They don't begin to take on any kind of proto-canonical shape until after the Exile when we get beyond ancient Israelite religion and into early Judaism. In Judaism the Hebrew Scriptures are only interpreted as part of the ongoing rabbinic tradition that includes the Mishnah, the Talmud, and later rabbinic commentary. In Christianity, the Hebrew Scriptures are an Old Testament of a bi-partite canon.
3) The Christian reading of the OT is inescapably Christocentric: We read through the interpretive lens provided by Jesus--by his own use of the Scriptures (as far as we can reconstruct that through the Gospel witnesses) and that of the NT writers.
4) But, as you point out, we also fail to understand the NT very well apart from a deeper understanding of its background in the OT and 1st C. Judaism. Now, what does that mean for the debate over violence? Next post. --Posted by Michael Westmoreland-White
Many thanks for this post, Michael. In my judgment, you contribute strongly to this discussion. I have little to disagree on with you. Certainly, you are right that the Scriptures are not flat and that not everything in them has exactly the same significance. I question whether Christians should always read through the lens provided by Jesus, as you put it. I would rather say that as Christians, we must see both testaments as witnesses to the self-same Christian reality that dwelt among us in fulness in Jesus. As I said to Dan, I see the "rule of faith" as the interpretive lens, rather than a strictly Christocentric lens.
Further comments and debate are welcome!